Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Does God Create?

On Facebook, the following question was posed in FAITHLINK, a page dedicated to Secular spiritual thought and having more than 2000 followers, as to what is the need for God to create. I reproduce the post here:

“My mother and I were talking about the Bhagavad-Gita, the Vedas and such. In the course of the conversation, we talked about the Hindu belief that creation exists as a cyclical phenomenon. The eons, or "yugas" progress from the least evolved and most troubled; the kali yuga, through more evolved and harmonious yugas; the treta, dwapara and the satya yugas, and then the cycle goes back down again, to kali yuga, and then ends with a dissolution of all creation as we know it, where all gets reabsorbed in the Supreme Intelligence; God. God then remains in a state of quiescence, and then the beginnings of creation occur again, with the primordial sound, or vibratory energy (Aum) and the cycles continue, through infinity. There is much that is written about this, but we had a question; why does God create? Why is this necessary for a Perfect Being, who is perfect in its quiescence? I realize that this is a very simplistic question. I also realize that I am anthropomorphizing God, because my instinctive answer to my question was “because He must be lonely” what do you think?”

I thought I will post my view for the benefit of all readers who read my blog.
It is a necessary state of man to seek and find answers. It is an inbuilt capacity in a process of consciousness evolution. From our tribal consciousness, man has evolved to a state of integral consciousness, over 20,000 years, and in this mode is seeking answers to deeper and deeper questions. The nature of scriptures has provided two distinct views. These are a magical dimension (derivative of ancestral tribal consciousness) which is rooted in literal interpretations bordering on the supernatural and a mystical dimension (derivative of integral consciousness) which provides a gateway to higher consciousness.

There are two major schools of thought with respect to Yugas. The first school was influenced by the writings in Śrīmad Bhāgavatam (longer period – 4.32 billion years) and the second school was influenced by the proposition of yogi Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri, which had a shorter time duration (12000 years). From a more scientific and mathematical construct, the great Indian mathematician and astronomer, Aryabhatta’s calculation seems to confirm cycles specified by Śrīmad Bhāgavatam. This view is also close to current Big Bang cosmology.
From a more human and Earth perspective, a shorter cycle from the consciousness point of view would be more palatable while the larger cycles points to the evolution of manifest consciousness. My reason for this conclusion is due to the fact that what is defined in the Śrīmad Bhāgavatam with respect to the size and age of individuals (21 cubits high and with a life of 100,000 years in Satya Yuga) is purely related to an ‘individual bounded consciousness field’ rather than to a physical entity. According to the Vedas, there are seven other planes of existence apart from the four dimensional space-time in which our consciousness is rooted during the Kali Yuga.

The Mayans had a division of five periods of 5125 years, giving a total of 25,625 years which is what has been calculated in Vedic science (25785.91 years for the return of ‘Revati Nakshatram’ - Pisces). and in modern astronomy as the ‘Precession cycle’ of the equinoxes (25,771.5 years) through the 12 Zodiac sign. Our immediate concern as human beings on Earth is the shorter cycle.

This is some inputs on the Yugas and the clear distinction that we need to make regarding consciousness and material manifestation. We are called through these scriptural interpretations and insights to move towards a higher level of consciousness through a spiritual discipline.

It is only in our limited consciousness that we perceive through duality a process known as creation. The duality of Creator and Creation are purely in a distorted consciousness. All time, space, actions are false reality and are limited to an extremely small space-time domain.
Let us raise a basic question. What is time, as we are talking of Yugas being measured in years? Without the relative motion of the Sun and the Earth there can not be a measure of time and given the current knowledge in cosmology, time is not absolute. If so how can we ever measure time beyond a limited period in a cosmic scale.

God or the Divine consciousness is singularity of Nothingness and Fullness, the Sunyata and the Pleroma, it is a state of being and it is not a plenum of action.

Love to you all


  1. Dear Tib-
    What a beautiful response to a question about the very nature of God's divinity. I,too, reject the -I was lonely- response. It was a singular origin of procreation. Look how we all imitate this sense of thought God initiated. It does not matter who or what was created first. Nor is it our enlightentment to know God's plan. If God wanted us to know, God would have stated plainly, so some mysticism would evolve to evoke pray and faith. I am ,of course, mystified, my friend, as a jazz musician anticipates that note before its time. And,because you are so enlightened, I'll share my favorite quote-" Time Is A Theorhetical Absurdity" What you are about to do will affect the entire structure of God's kingdom.So I choose 'love' as a guardian of my heart, and then 'wisdom'. Blessing,KNA

  2. Dear KNA, thanks for your feedback and the thoughts expressed. I am a seeker like you and we are fellow travelers. I liked what you say about time. Since you have talked about the concept of time, I would like to give you a link to the paper I am writing "Repositioning Reincarnation within Christian Eschatology".
    You can see it in Facebook or if you send me your email ID, I will send the link.
    Take care.